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I think I just pinned down what irritates me about some of the criticism of s3. People complain about how Martha was portrayed as someone who didn't measure up to Rose in the Doctor's affections, they complain about her storyline involving her pining for the Doctor. But you know what irritates me? That in all their complaining, this is what they reduce Martha to. As if the only things that matter about Martha are who she's fond of and who's fond of her.

I'm tired of reading stories and watching vids about how awesome Martha is in spite of the Doctor's treatment of her. How about how awesome she is because of things she did and things about her that have nothing to do with any of that?

Date: 2008-01-13 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoenix64.livejournal.com
I'm afraid I came off as more down on shippy stuff in general than I meant to. One can be shippy about Martha and the Doctor without doing what I was trying to complain about. It's saying that it's this awful thing that has to be addressed in such a way that blows it out of proportion. There was more to Martha than that. There was even more to what could be seen as shippy between her and the Doctor than that.

But I'm having a hard time figuring out how to explain it better than pointing at vids and fic and going "This one good, this one bad."

Date: 2008-01-13 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fandom-me.livejournal.com
Oh no, I know what you meant. I think so, anyway, I just wandered off on a tangent because I was thinking about it. It's. Two awesome people in a ship are good, two people made awesome because or inspite of a ship is bad?

Date: 2008-01-13 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoenix64.livejournal.com
YES!!! Thank you! ::dances you::

Date: 2008-01-13 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fandom-me.livejournal.com
*spins with you*

I get it and I'm there. that sort of attitude kind of makes my skin crawl, and not just in fiction.

Date: 2008-01-13 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoenix64.livejournal.com
Exactly. I've dealt with some actually kind of astounding things in my love life but I tend to be somewhat private about it because, hello, I am not a Disney princess or a character in a Brontë book. Judge me by the dragons I've slain all on my own.

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