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Jan. 13th, 2008 12:10 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I think I just pinned down what irritates me about some of the criticism of s3. People complain about how Martha was portrayed as someone who didn't measure up to Rose in the Doctor's affections, they complain about her storyline involving her pining for the Doctor. But you know what irritates me? That in all their complaining, this is what they reduce Martha to. As if the only things that matter about Martha are who she's fond of and who's fond of her.
I'm tired of reading stories and watching vids about how awesome Martha is in spite of the Doctor's treatment of her. How about how awesome she is because of things she did and things about her that have nothing to do with any of that?
I'm tired of reading stories and watching vids about how awesome Martha is in spite of the Doctor's treatment of her. How about how awesome she is because of things she did and things about her that have nothing to do with any of that?
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Date: 2008-01-13 09:26 pm (UTC)I just avoid it in canon. So I see the characters outside it and would really, really be happy if other people could ever manage.
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Date: 2008-01-13 10:01 pm (UTC)But I'm having a hard time figuring out how to explain it better than pointing at vids and fic and going "This one good, this one bad."
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Date: 2008-01-13 10:09 pm (UTC)I get it and I'm there. that sort of attitude kind of makes my skin crawl, and not just in fiction.
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Date: 2008-01-13 09:58 pm (UTC)"Don't Touch That Dial", which by the way is awesome, doesn't reduce Martha. It certainly doesn't emphasize those moments that could be seen as the Doctor being unkind or dismissive of Martha. It's those "responses" that I think reduce her. But now that I'm trying to better explain what I mean, I can't figure out how to put it. It's just, in having to have a response they make it more important than it is.
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Date: 2008-01-13 10:08 pm (UTC)It's those "responses" that I think reduce her.
Okay, I think I sort of get it. That by overemphasizing Ten's reactions, it's like saying his approval is required for her awesome to actually count? 'Martha is made of awesome and I wish Ten could see and fully embrace that' vs. 'As long as Ten doesn't see Martha's awesome it can't be fully realized'.
Yes, no?
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Date: 2008-01-13 10:20 pm (UTC)